Red Bull F1 team now ready to reveal budget cap penalties
Oct.28 - Red Bull is ready to reveal the details of an agreement it has reached with Formula 1's governing body over the penalty for the 2021 budget cap breach.
The outcome of the saga had been expected to be finalised a week ago in Austin, but negotiations were still taking place when they were paused for the death of Dietrich Mateschitz.
A new press conference, almost certainly to conclude the saga and the details of the penalties, has been called by Red Bull for 11.30am local time in Mexico.
"It is inevitable that there will be a penalty," Christian Klien, a former Red Bull driver, told Kronen Zeitung newspaper.
It is expected that the penalties will be a hefty fine and a potential 25 percent reduction in the team's wind tunnel time for 2023.
When asked about that speculation, world champion Max Verstappen said in Mexico: "We don't know until the things are decided.
"But also these are things that I'm not involved with."
The Dutchman also hit back at the ongoing backlash he receives online from mostly Lewis Hamilton fans who think the seven time title winner is the deserving 2021 champion.
"They are sore anyway so it doesn't matter what they say or what you do," said Verstappen, who revealed that he has moved on from last season.
"Probably they can't do that and they will never be able to, so that's a problem for them to deal with."
This weekend in Mexico, Verstappen has the chance to break Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel's all-time F1 record of 13 wins in a single season.
If he does that, Klien says "everything would have been achieved this year that could have been achieved".
"Max may not give a damn about that, but as a team, you definitely want all those milestones."
Indeed, another milestone would be Red Bull's first-ever 1-2 finish in the drivers' standings, which will require Sergio Pérez finishing ahead of Charles Leclerc.
Mexican Perez, however, insists that he doesn't want a "gift" win this weekend.
When asked what he will do if he is leading from Perez on Sunday, Verstappen answered: "I'm winning. In that case he is outscoring Charles anyway, so that's all he needs. Anyway, first we have to be that competitive."
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Nothing against Max, he has been brilliant this season. However, in the current era it's not so difficult to increase the number of wins made by a driver in a single season.
If you go back to the 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's there were about half the number of races in a season, or less, than there is today. That's why it's not an accurate indicator to measure a driver by the number of wins in a season. It must be measured by percentage of races won in a season.
So based on your reasoning which i have no reason to doubt, most of Louise's records mean nothing as well then, I can live with that lol
Michael Schumacher won 13 out of 18 races = 72.22%
Sebastian Vettel won 13 out of 19 races = 68.42%
MadMax has won 13 out of 22 races = 59.09%
For Max to truly set a new record he has to win 16 out of 22 races = 72.73%.
That's a big ask. But doable.
Lewis Hamilton won 11 out of 16 races = 68.75%
Please note I’m not a fan of his but I realise that there a some people who are and others that are triggered by the very mention of his name.
And I quite enjoy stirring the pot. 😀
Oooh"! You are so naughty.
I do believe the last time such a high % was achieved, a Honda engine was in the back of the car, So........
- it says more about the domination of the team than the driver wouldn’t you say. Although all great drivers in their era.
Thank you. Percentage comparisons are the only fair method. Here is one that surprised me. Despite MB dominance for half a decade, RB has won 25% of the races entered.
Probably just down to MB having the better drivers then?😉
Guys, this record is only about the number of wins in a season. Alberto Ascari holds the all-time record for the highest percentage.
He won 75% of the races in 1952 (6 out of the 8 races)
Don't forget to put an * next to 2021 and 2022 WDC.
* 2021 Human error and cheating team exceeding budget.
* 2022 Cheating by gaining an advantage from the previous seasons cheating.
Neither of these can be disputed as it's now official.
F6 - you so blithely overlook Dame Lucille's talent for getting away with pushing opponents of the track, or the strategic 'contact' that impedes the performance of the car. Let alone placing his car on top of his opponent's car when he knew he'd loose.
I applaude Dame Lucille's incredible skill, it's his shady tactics that none of us can stand.
poor old Lucy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3B57ebi-kA
I worry about your infatuation with Lewis Stroppy. That clip was on u tube 10 years ago, ten years!. Try to forget him, as i’ve told you before, you can’t have him he belongs to Angela now. Take his poster off your bedroom wall and concentrate on the one of Emma.
I am 🥴.
2 years in row got 2 titles doesn't deserve now caught out spending almost 2 million more on price which was set should have been stripped titles was not fare on ferrari 7 million nothing to at team his points should been took from him as he had an advantage over rest of cars
I don’t think either of the RB drivers are exactly blameless in this respect are they, especially Max.
who put who in hospital at Silverstone last year and who took them both out at Monza? Baby Lewie!
Was he in icu or just for a quick check to confirm he was ok?
So let me get this straight, you think it’s always Lewis’s fault?
Oh I forgot, who had the most penalty points in 2021?
Information curtsy of Stroppy..
I dont know who had the most penalty points in 2021, or dyo mean out of Max and Lewis, if you did , then be more specific , maybe with some facts, so out of memory Max had 7 or 8 and Lucy had 5 , so whats your point?
In reply to Can Ed I was pointing out that neither LH or M V were innocent in 2021 with as you say in a previous post both collecting penalties.
7M plus 10% less tunnel time, no problem they have AT winkwink
Yeah, I read that. For that price I'd cheat every year. If the FIA think that decision is a deterrent they're batshit crazy. Great job by the RB whizkid barristers. Now can we please go racing.
Also, I see that they reversed ALO's COTA penalty and reinstated his points. Much bigger story considering the Renault- McLaren battle.
Going racing honestly Ror lol , but did you read that had RB accountants applied a Tax credit properly.... , they'd have only been 0.5 M over, damn , Rb have the uk Gov accountants working for them, so an reasoning by the muppets on here , andddd the other teams that it gave them an advantage , if it had been the 0.5M
It wasn't that long that you could run an entire season on 500k. Ah, those were the days.
For any corporate or finance lawyer that has ever negotiated any sort of financial "definitions" for purposes of contracts, budgeting, financial representations, or, in this case, the budget cap terminology (in the deep legal weeds, where I suspect the disagreement, alleged overspend and related defenses lie), the fact that there would be a dispute over this silly F1 budget cap comes as absolutely NO SURPRISE - and is Exhibit A as to why there should not be budget caps in the top level of global motorsports.
Well the biggest crybabies in F1 are at it again. Not only did they cheat on the cost cap, and steal last years drivers championship, but they want other teams to apologize to them. The FIA could not favor them anymore. They gift them a win for following the safety car for one lap in the rain, they gift them the drivers championship by breaking their own rules, and now give them a slap on the wrist for cheating on the cost cap. I’ve stopped watching F1, and now I’ll stop reading about it. So sad.
funny, it seems to most fans outside the UK that the biggest crybabies in F1 are Toto and baby Lewie!
Nope. He oversaw cheating, turtled when confronted, and asks for others to suck his thumb for him. Pretty weak.
Your Taxi is here, safe journey bye
What, you found Jaxwad hiding from his misplaced hamfealty? (new word, I like it) Notice in the post-quali gab Lewie refused to recognize Georgie Boy's superiority?
I thought George's interview with DC was candid and friendly, however, Louise's interview with DC was the exact opposite!
You are correct, I think Louise was rather pissed that George bettered her! I hope George finishes in front of Louise in the race!
True,, sir Lulu nearly swallowed his "Adams apple" when asked about qualifying behind Georgie boy.
Ror and Smokey, Spot on , it was Sooooo obvious that he ignored DC question, i think King George can turn up up more when he gets angry , whereas the Old girl is at Max- (no pun intended) all the time and can go no faster--it comes to us all, good speed by the Mercs though, and if we spotted it......