Jun.20 - Toto Wolff went "full Abu Dhabi-spec" as he lost his temper with fellow Formula 1 team bosses during a meeting in Montreal.

That unnamed source was referring to the Mercedes chief's legendary outbursts following the highly controversial outcome of the 2021 world championship.

After the Canadian meeting, convened to discuss pertinent issues including the FIA's clampdown against so-called "porpoising", another source is quoted as saying Wolff "lost his sh*t" at Red Bull boss Christian Horner.

Horner's views were echoed by Dr Helmut Marko, who slammed the "nonsense" clampdown that many believe was powered by struggling reigning champion Mercedes' complaints about the ground-effect phenomenon.

"Today, (Lewis) Hamilton got out of the car quickly," said Marko after the seven time world champion finished on the podium in Sunday's Canadian GP.

"Apparently when he's on the podium, it's a lot easier for his back."

Horner, meanwhile, declared: "One team, Mercedes, has the biggest problems and then the FIA reacted in the middle of the season.

"The fact that people are now trying to impose such powers on the FIA, which practically determine the setup of the cars, has certainly not been thought through.

"It's unfair to have a mid-season rule change because one team missed its target."

When Horner, as well as other team bosses including 2022 championship rival Ferrari's Mattia Binotto, pushed back against Wolff at the Montreal meeting, there were apparently fireworks.

One source wondered if Wolff's furious reaction in the meeting was "because the Netflix cameras were on".

"This situation has clearly gone too far," Wolff insisted.

"Team principals trying to play political games is disingenuous. Mercedes is not the only team that is suffering in some way.

"But with these manipulations in the background, these Chinese whispers, it's a bit difficult," said Wolff.

Marko, however, denied that Red Bull's stance on this issue is purely for competitive reasons over and above the long-term health detriments of its drivers including Max Verstappen.

"Our drivers are one of the greatest assets we have," Marko told ORF. "We make sure they are in top physical condition."

He also warned that Mercedes' strategy of wanting rule changes may backfire.

"All of the parameters are far too risky," said Marko. "You'd be giving yourself up to chance.

"But that would mainly affect the team that complained about it the most."


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54 F1 Fan comments on “Wolff lost his temper during fellow F1 team boss meeting

  1. Les

    Toto is like a child throwing tantrums.
    Not a CEO's bootlace.
    Why does he pander to HAM so much. He is the the team boss , just tell HAM this is the way it is going to be. There are plenty of other drivers who could have won 6 WDC's with that Merc car.And before anybody gets on here and says HAM has 7 WDC's yes but his first was with McLaren.

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    • f1award

      Plenty of other drivers could have won 6 WDC's you say, Bottas didn't. As to the other drivers you refer to that could have won, pure guess work by a LH hater.

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      • Les

        You missed the point. HAM pandered to, if he wasn't there BOT or another driver would have won. The point was Toto panders to HAM and I can't work out why.
        If HAM didn't like being treated equally by the team boss , get another driver in. It was the car that won. Anyway ROS beat HAM proves the point.

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        • Jax

          Context is a foreign concept amongst haters. Smh
          Lewis had 3 engine failures that year when no other Merc powered car had such repeated failure. Rosberg had none! Coincidently, this occurred as Ros and Lewis had their garage crew swapped that year without proper explanation from Toto why. So Diaper Don's rubbish statement that "Nico did it without team support." is laughable. And after all this he only won the title by 5 measly points, as opposed to when Lewis whips him by wide margins. Even funnier when Lewis was leading the last race that year and started to back up a nervous Rosberg who was behind him into the rest of the field. All Ros had to do was pass LH but he was too chicken shit to chance it Lol.
          He'll be remembered for retiring young as the pressure was too much with his lucky one title.
          That's context son.

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    • CanadianEh

      Even though all the teams have two drivers, there is always the favorite son that gets the nod for passing driver #2; gets the tow during Qualifying; gets new tires first; get all the nuanced preferential treatment.

      So, Alonso and Bottas didn't get the preferential treatment when they were Dame Lucille's team-mates. Alonso left, Bottas stayed.

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      • f1award

        You're in lala land looking for excuses, Bottas had equal treatment and just how many victories LH got after the WDC was in the bag. As to Alonso not getting equal treatment against a rookie teammate, you really are grasping at straws.
        Jes some people are just so blinkered.

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        • Gunfighter

          Bottas? The same Bottas that got spanked when a young guy, from another team, got in a car that didn't fit him and paddled Valtteri's backside? That Bottas? Probably could use a better argument mate.

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          • ReallyOldRacer

            That, my friend, is textbook deflection and redirection. Are you a small town politician? Susan's point was not about BOT vs RUS. The point was equal treatment vs the favorite son. The bias might have been warranted, but it was certainly evident.

            Nobody disputes that Lewie is a good racing driver, but it is tough to argue that he was not coddled and spoon fed by the MB juggernaut.

        • CanadianEh

          Which rock do you hide under? You and Jax must share the same bed.

          Alonso left in disgust. The sudden reliability issues with his car and orders to give up winning races to Lucille were obvious for even a blind man to see.

          As for Bottas, he was faithful to the Terms and Conditions in his contract. On occasion he got to let it out of the bag, but he was pragmatic enough to take the shed-loads of cash for his being Lucille's foil.

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  2. ReallyOldRacer

    Gotta' side with Horny and the doc on this one. The Totster's lobbying is obviously self-centered, and so it should be. He represents MB. But his Germanic bully-whining is annoying. The rules are for everybody, not just the silver slug.

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    • shroppyfly

      Is Torger under pressure from the Dame, or the sponsors, or co owners of the team Jim Ratcliffe/Mb itself.

      Big Jim didn't buy into the team to be 2nd/3rd or worse, he was sold a dream that we will always be the best.

      My point is made because Toto has NEVER been under pressure as a team ceo/part owner , he was doing sod all at Williams, went to Merc where all the development work had been done on the car and won , won, won .

      Now usually the Germans like rules, its almost part of there psyche,however Torger can easily be mistaken for a Boxhead as we used to call them yrs ago, but hes Austrian, well so what.... Germans/Austrians there virtually the same, anyone would be hard pressed to tell the difference in culture/language/the countries themselves and even historically, is someone a German or an Austrian,very much like Torger, easy lets just change the rules then I can be/I can have whatever I want .

      A good example was Ron , when Honda was doing shite at the beginning, and even when Gp2 Gp2 was about Ron never lost his cool with the Fia , or lobbied for things like Torger does .

      Whichever/whatever the dream machine/team is wobbling considerably, are we looking at a double Nico at seasons end?

      On a side note we haven't seen Suzie W for a while, remember how vocal she was too after AD last yr, trouble at mill perhaps?

      Its 6 am i should be asleep grrr

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  3. 407guy

    Classic:

    "Today, (Lewis) Hamilton got out of the car quickly," said Marko after the seven time world champion finished on the podium in Sunday's Canadian GP.

    "Apparently when he's on the podium, it's a lot easier for his back."

    LOL.

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    • Susan

      Well, very impressive. Friday and Saturday having an “undriveable” car to being on the podium 24 hrs later. Even more impressive driving a S#*[email protected] for a car last week and barely able to get out of the car. Extraordinary! Would love to hear the backstory.

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    • John Mitchell

      Mercedes made quite a difference with their car and, if anyone with half a brain, watched the in car shots there was a considerable reduction in head movement during the race. Anyone who listens to and quotes Marko definitely comes up short somewhere.
      Watch out for Silverstone!

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      • Yrjo E Veltheim

        Thanks John for being a voice of reason among all these Hamilton haters. They couldn't stand it when he was winning and they seem to hate him even more now that he's not doing well. Somehow I don't think there would be a fraction of this nonsense out there if Lewis were the "right" colour.

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        • ReallyOldRacer

          Yrgo, certainly there are racists among us. But, if you read the posts you will find that most negative comments are directed at Lewie's childish whining and insufferable posturing. As Shrop' succinctly puts it, a prat.

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      • shroppyfly

        Not saying they haven't miraculously solved it , but last yrs race Hamilton described te track as very very bumpy and I think im right in saying SS is suing the the firm that did the resurfacing, 2nd Rb would have won it last yr if not for.... imo so Rb and Curlys cars are going to be superfast this yr, so your right i will be watching SS, maybe i will see a miracle...!

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  4. Gunfighter

    Bottas? The same Bottas that got spanked when a young guy, from another team, got in a car that didn't fit him and paddled Valtteri's backside? That Bottas? Probably could use a better argument mate.

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    • Susan

      Well if you remember, GR drove a brilliant race. The only reason he didn’t win, the pit crew really screwed up. Bottas was never supposed to win. If you caught his interview on Drive to Survive, he was not happy being LH “wingman”. Even this season LH has done nothing but complain and whine and GR with the same S#*[email protected]$x, car placed better than the goat, oh I'm sorry the G.O.A.T.

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  5. shroppyfly

    Here it comes , the coded msg to the fans and team, Lewis is now saying he wants KingG to to the the experimenting on the car in 2nd half of the season...... Now why would that be Lucy ?

    To the team, its come on guys this is making me look bad always finishing behind George, and to his naive fans its look , here's why i'm behind George its the team, its the team....

    As for REALLY hoping hes in the mix at SS well course after last yrs comedy, its gonna look really bad if King George beats him there

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  6. Susan

    Lewis has been overtaken by his ego and self-importance. His days are waning and he knows it. GR is a serious competitor. He’s young and very talented. I don’t see him playing a Bottas to LH, who doesn’t have his head in the “game”. Sad days ahead for the G.O.A.T.

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  7. Susan

    It seems to me, the more experienced driver should be driving the experimental car. Who better than the G.O.A.T. With his knowledge of set ups and superior driving skills, makes sense to me. It’s all about what is good for the “team”, right? Not personal gain.

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  8. Ricky

    As previously mentioned no complaints from Toto or Hampster when they were winning everything. Now it's not going their way they want to change the rules. By the way, would love to know the magic back cure within 7 days gone from hardly being able to get out of the car to running about like nothing is wrong How does the song go? You're a Fake!

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      • Susan

        As reference to the other “master race” it did not wok out so well for the first one , hopefully better for Toto. Both Mick and Warren had better taste in clothes. This one, not so much. Hope he didn’t pay too much for the latest get up. Hideous!

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  9. Jere Jyrälä

    I was initially surprised the Netflix crew even got access to that meeting, as I thought people involved would be hesitant to speak out/bring up matters if they were on camera.
    I guess the fact their words won't get heard until next February/March made them open about having the meeting filmed since everything said will have become outdated by that point.

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  10. Donalf

    Seems like I have to change my post so as to, not upset anyone. In my view after toto totally lost the plot with fellow team principles he should receive a penalty as do the drivers if they don't behave like grown ups. Penalties for team principles who don't behave or can't control thir emotions, firstly fine them £40,000 secondly a next race ban " meaning toto won't be allowed in the paddock at silverstone as in the case for football managers when they don't behave their selves, & thirdly sack him.,, or is that a bit harsh. Food for thought.

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  11. Chris

    A bit rich for Marko to be complaining about Mercedes influencing FIA officials. The Only reason Max is champion is because Red Bull influenced F1 officials.

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    • ReallyOldRacer

      Chris, very fair point about the piss party but let's remember that VER was far and away the dominate driver during the 2021 season. Should he have won that last race, probably not, but he did deserve the WDC.

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  12. shroppyfly

    Obviously I agree, last yr was exciting enthralling unmissable, entertaining, but also very silly at times, Max was superb last yr, and this yr well, who cares about SLH , its all about the new generation, instead of one car/person always in front, boringgggg , we now can have 3-4 , maybe even 5 drivers vying and car capable of winning, when was the last era we had that? ., the next 5-10yrs of racing ,( not politics, not BS ) looks good .

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  13. Susan

    I totally agree. The constant processional races were extremely boring. This year interesting and fun to watch. There is enough politics around us, it doesn’t need to be in sports. Competition is enough drama in this sport, whining, complaining and throwing temper tantrums is not drama, it’s embarrassing to watch “adults” behave like pampered children. Acting like drama queens have other venues in the entertainment world.

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  14. Donalf

    Didn't realise that Km was shopped by ocon for the damage on his wing and I remember him saying it was nothing to worry about but still he was made to pit so does that mean if you touch another during a race it will be routine to drop into the pits to have your car checked over in case a bit flys off. T be fair that's stupid as was the call for Km to pit witch cocked his race up completely and who was it that hit him,, yes sir Lulu,, bad call if you ask me.

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  15. Susan

    All this is getting ridicules. There are so many rules, the pit wall will spend have the race checking the rule book. Then will have to decifer what rules will be enforced and what rules won’t.
    Lulu can hit anybody at anytime because he is entitled to his 8th WDC. He’s back and fired up, doesn’t want anyone slowing him down. KM should have known that.

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      • Donalf

        He's at it again has he gone completely nuts sir loopy Lo is only getting involved with American abortion rights crazy I suppose hell be getting his other driver friends to take the knee for American abortion rights now,, caw love a duck.

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